These 'phones are amazing. I looked for months for phones to optimize my Ipod experience. I don't have a problem with the apple earbuds but wanted something much better. I considered noise cancelling phones but they are very expensive. after much research i found this model. Many stores charge over 200 for them (they list at 250) but on mini9ssd.com only charged 85 including the shipping, and they were a pleasure to deal with.